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how often is the smock this ambiguious? i'm not sure what to think of this site. it's either a wonderfully radical idea or it's just another protestant snow-covered dunghill.
i want to think it's a good idea but i can't help but think martin luther is somehow responsible for such a site, but for what it's worth...

xxxchurch.com

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It appears that the site is actually anti-porn and pro-"get control of your life and live for God instead of pleasing yourself!" It's interesting.

I heard about this from the guys who wrote "Every Man's Battle" about porn addiction.

I liked this from the xxxchurch site:

The dirty little secret is not going away. It's a big, hairy monster that has its teeth in our society. Let's not play stupid here and think that if we just ignore it, it will go away.

Here a porn, there a porn, everywhere a porn porn. It's everywhere! It's big! It's nasty! It's corporate and it shows no sign of going away. Don't you think it's about time for us to start getting honest about our lives and the world we live in?

It would be truly naive to think that only dirty old men have this problem. Christians and Non-Christians are dealing with this. This is something that faces us all. Christians buy the videos, Pastors log onto the websites, church leaders are buying the magazines. It's our kids that are logging on and our families that are being affected. It's our problem and so what are we going to do about it?

Here is what you can do right now!

1. Talk About It.
Get the collective conversation started. If you're waiting for someone else to bring it up you just might be waiting a long time. Talk to your friends, your buddies and especially your kids.

2. Get Your Crap Together.
Get your crap together. You're either part of the problem or the solution. We can't be complaining if in our own lives we are indulging in it.

3. Get Involved.
We need your help gosh darn it! Help us out! Get involved in one of our campaigns, buy a T-shirt and download our flyers. Do something! Standing on the sidelines is for wussies and old ladies.

Is it too frank? Maybe. But I've known men addicted to internet porn. It's a hard habit to break. xxxchurch also does "accountability partners"--with internet monitoring software. For some men it's the only way to break away.

I also like their "No Ho" pledge for teenaged girls. Would it be nice if it were more "polite"? Maybe. But maybe it wouldn't reach the girls who need it very most of all.....

I'm a Catholic Youth Minister, and I love XXXChurch. It's been a great resource for my high school guys. It has good solid advice in a way that makes this issue easy to deal with. The humor and irreverent style breaks the ice.

I also recommend NoMoHo.org put together by Matt Smith of MTV's the Real World.

even better:

www.porndestroyswomen.org

even before i grew-up and became the smockmomma i am today, i was vicious about my anti-pornography stance. even way back when -- when i was still an angry feminist -- i fought against porn. i even wrote a thesis on date-rape subtitled "pornography is the theory; rape is the practice."

The subject lines of the porn spam I get have really changed my view of porn, which was bad enough before, but the majority of it doesn't even seem to pretend to be about "pleasure" and misguided appreciation of "beauty" but a desire to humiliate women, and often a barely if at all disguised violence. It's terrible enough to watch strangers sin and to use images of their bodies for pleasure (while in all likelihood you would never want a human relationship with the people you gladly use for this purpose.) But the trash I get in my e-mail is downright scary. How are relatively normal men even tempted by it? Is their attraction to any arousing images so strong that they get used to all the stuff surrounding it, or is lust ordered to degradation and negativity toward its object, even if you start out thinking you're just fantasizing about love and affection in your loneliness?

I used to have one particular pop-up stuck to my browser a while back that featured these little squares of isolated female body parts. It struck me more like something to appeal to a serial killer than a lonely guy looking for a substitute for a relationship.

Porn is evil because it degrades one of the greatest things about humans - the ability to create another human being.

Every time I get a porn pop-up, I have a strong temptation to follow that link and look at 'just one picture.' I'm not even thinking - it's almost like an automatic response. My brain actually has to say 'this is wrong, close it before it sucks you in.'

My brain wins over my baser instincts, and it has been winning faster ever since I met my now wife.

It is one of the constant challenges of raising a teen-aged boy. Raging hormones and all that. I also want Zteen to understand how it will hurt his relationship with his future wife.

No wife can ever measure up to the fantasy created by pornography. They will not LOOK like that. They will not ACT like that. A wife whose husband is involved with pornography is in a painful situation. It calls into question her very "womanliness" in many ways. "Am I not pretty enough, thin enough, sexy enough......."

It's a losing situation for everyone. Zteen has responded far more empathetically to how his future wife would be hurt than by almost any other argument.

We also have asked him: "Would you want McBaby walking around dressed like that when she's a teenager?" His answer is always NO! Putting it into that perspective has helped. All these women involved are someone's daughter, someone's sister. The fact that they have in some weird way AGREED to be humiliated (or even to convince themselves that it is not humiliating) only shows how disordered our thinking about sex has become.

Hmm, "measure up." What's portrayed in porn is what men really deep down want? That's very disturbing... I had that notion for a long time actually, and it did a lot of damage (I grew up without any men really in my life, and my ideas about them were largely shaped by media.) Is it really that men start out wanting that and the problem is that porn stars are unrealistically attractive compared to real, flawed women? Oy.

I don't understand why men would want women to look and act like that for any reason except that the women lack or are airbrushed of flab and acne and things like that -- I mean, they don't look happy or in love, do men want women who look like they're suffering? The Victoria's Secret ads they plaster in the middle of online newspaper stories about tax cuts and stuff are one thing, but not typically classified as porn, the "watch her get it!" porn spam is something else. The idea that a real woman is disappointing because she may have fat deposits or leg stubble or something, and that real, normal, virtuous men really have trouble getting past that more than the "I am a prostitute on heroin, please help me" look I see on porn popups is difficult...

ISTM that porn works the same way as strong drugs for most people: as escape from reality into a world where things can't hurt us. The porn star is under your control: she is there to please you, and you can turn her off when you want. Real people are messier. But they're there for you when things go bad. Porn can't fill in for real life.

And our girls see this and think "Hey, it attracts Joe." Yes, it attracts him, to something you're not and can never be: a fantasy. You want to be a disposable woman for a man or build a relationship?

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